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The E-Sylum: Volume 25, Number 13, March 27, 2022, Article 14

NOTES FROM E-SYLUM READERS: MARCH 27, 2022

More on Denman Grammar School Medals
Michael Wehner writes:

Jennie Downer school medal "Ever since I wrote a TAMS Journal article back in 2011 about the medals of James Denman, I have been keeping a census of the awardees of the four types of Denman medals. Adding Jennie Downer makes 56 names of San Francisco grammar school female graduates between 1866 and 1915. Undoubtedly, there are many more. A special thanks to Jerome Nashorn as it is exciting to learn the story of one of these young women. "The census can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/
1i4UuDvKO71wgSFfwdCIhRgm_
Pt5Z8366BnZbwm5Trnk/edit?
usp=sharing
"... and my TAMS article, "The Denman Grammar School Medals of San Francisco" by Michael Wehner, TAMS Journal September/October 2011 - Vol. 51, No. 5. pp 131-136 is on the Newman Numismatic Portal at
https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/523780?page=9 "

Denman Middle School Dave Lange writes:

"When I read the article about a medal awarded by the Denman Grammar School I immediately recognized that name. My mother attended James Denman Junior High School (now called Middle School) in the 1940s. It was named for the man hailed as the "Father of San Francisco's Public Schools." Denman (1829-1909) organized the first free, public school in that city in 1851. This is the school later named for him and that presented the award medal. The one my mother attended was of later construction and was located some distance from the original."

Thanks, everyone. -Editor

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
MORE ON WOMEN AND THE U.S. MINT (https://www.coinbooks.org/v25/esylum_v25n12a09.html)

M C Lilley's Unmarked Tokens
Regarding the Improved Order of Red Men token Michael Wehner discussed, Heath White writes:

"True, only one listing on TokenCatalog mentions M C Lilley. I would argue VERY FEW companies manufactured more items that are listed on TC than Lilley. Unlike companies such as W & H, Bastian, or MACO, Lilley rarely put their company name on tokens, medals, ribbons, insignia, or badges they manufactured. Lilley shipped small items from their metal plant in white boxes which had their company name on it so if the box was lost so was the connection to Lilley. At some point (1915-1920?) they did start marking some items with their company name, but even then it doesn't seem to have been done very consistently.

"Attached is an image of a pencil rubbing taken from the die that made the IORM Token on TC. I found this in a die inventory book from The C E Ward Company which acquired many of Lilley's dies in 1951. I would love to say I owned this die, but unfortunately I don't. The die was sold to a dealer a couple of years ago and is now owned by someone that most likely has no idea about the provenance of it."

  M C Lilley - IORM Token Die Sketch Improved Order of Red Men token reverse

Thanks! -Editor

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
NOTES FROM E-SYLUM READERS: MARCH 20, 2022 : Lilley Improved Order of Red Men Token (https://www.coinbooks.org/v25/esylum_v25n12a11.html)

Julian Leidman Remembers Jim McGuigan
Jim McGuigan Julian Leidman writes:

"I knew Jim for nearly 50 years, meeting him at the annual MSNS show in Dearborn, MI. As has been previously said, he was a gentleman and a fine, fine dealer, who was respected and treasured by many numismatists. Whenever I was unable to attend an auction that I had bids for, he was one of a very few colleagues who I knew could examine the lots and execute the bids for me. We shared many commissions together. For many, many years we were back to back at the annual FUN convention. I will miss him, as will many. Rest in Peace, Jim!"

To read the earlier E-Sylum articles, see:
JAMES R. MCGUIGAN (1944-2022) (https://www.coinbooks.org/v25/esylum_v25n11a03.html)
NOTES FROM E-SYLUM READERS: MARCH 20, 2022 : More on Jim McGuigan (https://www.coinbooks.org/v25/esylum_v25n12a11.html)

More on ANS Membership Index Cards
George Cuhaj writes:

ansmembershipcar00amer_1130 "The membership index cards shown last week may have been created as resource material for the ANS 1958 centennial history by Howard L. Addelson.

"If that is the case, they were typed by Rose Mangini - working on the centennial history was one of her first projects at the ANS. She is better known at the long time secretary to the director Leslie A. Elam.

"In later years the secretary's office would have used special buff colored 4x6 or so cards kept in a business file which recorded personal information as well as dues payments, committee appointments, membership class progress and other society activity information.

"That system was in use well into the mid-1980s when various databases began to make their way into the operation of things. Rose retired in the mid-1980s (after '83 before '88)."

ANS Librarian David Hill writes:

"Thanks George!

"I had thought for a long time that they were done for Adelson's book, but some details led me to think otherwise, including the amount of detail in committee appointments and that some seemed to have been updated in real time. The information on them is mostly up until the 1920s, but there are outliers into the 1940s."

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
EARLY ANS MEMBERSHIP RECORDS DIGITIZED (https://www.coinbooks.org/v25/esylum_v25n12a04.html)

More on Hauling "Jeff Davis Gold & Silver"
Regarding the Civil War veteran questionnaire form he discussed last week, Chelius Carter writes:

"It is a Union veterans piece...a friend pointed out that what I had read as a southern state abbreviation was New Hampshire. I misread "N H" and couldn't make heads nor tails of his unit designation.

"This makes perfectly good sense for him to be in Savannah, GA in June 1865 - as they occupied the city from December 1864 on. Regardless...this document still takes the "lost Confederate treasury" into a different direction that I have not heard before...that the Yankees got hold of it, or at least some part of it...."

"While driveing Team at Savannah Ga about the first of June 1865 I hauled One load of Jeff Davis gold & silver to the boat."

  Confererate veteran questionnaire loaded Jeff Davis gold and silver

Thank you for the additional information. Curious tidbit. -Editor

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
HAULING JEFF DAVIS GOLD & SILVER (https://www.coinbooks.org/v25/esylum_v25n12a08.html)

Book Review: The Winchester Mint
American Numismatic Society Curator Emeritus R. W. Hoge writes:

The Winchester Mint Reprint cover "I recently acquired a copy of the The Winchester Mint and Coins and Related Finds from the Excavations of 1961–71, edited by Martin Biddle. Although I noted that there was a mention of a reprint coming out, and apparently a digital open-access version, there seems never to have appeared an announcement or review or discussion of the original publication of this work (in 2012). To me, this is incredible, because this has to be one of the most prodigious numismatic undertakings and productions of the past ten years at the least. (It was, literally, 50 years in production!)

"The work contains what I believe must be the greatest presentation of the coinage of a single major Medieval mint that has ever appeared. And the author of this study, Yvonne Harvey (who must have been well-known to many British medieval numismatic authorities), seems to have gone, and passed away, virtually unrecognized. How can this have happened?! I am very curious. The book as a whole really is a gem, and the amount of die-study work that Harvey put into it (without the modern aid of the computer) is astounding!

"Wayne, your own work with The E-Sylum over the years has been incredible, too! I don't know how you are able to pull together so much, so quickly and so well! Thank you always!"

*blush* It's smoke, mirrors, elbow grease and a healthy dose of high-quality submissions from our high-quality readers. So thank you, too.

While checking our archive I discovered that we actually did have an announcement in The E-Sylum in 2012, from my good friend the late Tom Fort. The article is linked below. New books can be easy to miss sometimes, when we have so many of them - there were five new publications announced in that one issue alone (among 30 articles total). -Editor

To read the earlier E-Sylum article, see:
NEW BOOK: THE WINCHESTER MINT (https://www.coinbooks.org/esylum_v15n19a04.html)
NEW BOOK: THE WINCHESTER MINT REPRINT (https://www.coinbooks.org/v24/esylum_v24n48a08.html)

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Wayne Homren, Editor

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